Spyderco side lock. blow some air into the space.

Spyderco side lock On this one the blade centering and the lock action is great (thanks store staff for QC for me!), but it arrived with such lock feature (and also some unfinished spot on the handle, which I'm ready to grind if it worth keeping) Lock formats that use this type of system -- liner lock, frame lock, compression lock -- will be relatively more likely to open up in the pocket. Absolutely no side-by On the flip side of this, I have a 2004 Paramilitary that has some vertical play. Seems like a good idea. It used a notch in the side of the tang that the lock bar seated into to hold the blade closed. Modoc ED. But once locked open, there is no side play at all. While the blade is opened, blow some air onto the other side of the lock bar and press and release the lock. Every knife in the series features the same basic design parameters—a full-flat-ground, leaf-shaped CPM® S30V® blade, an ergonomic handle design with textured forefinger choil and thumb ramp, and a reversible Compression Lock. I did assemble the knife without the lock and the problem seems a little better. One other major brand I had acted up. Lock formats that have a spring providing closing bias tend to keep the blade in the handle. Hollow. Brand: Spyderco. I do this to every compression lock knife that disassemble. Recently got the sage with compression lock. Spyderco Sage 4. If it's normal, I have no issues. 69% Meh, I don't on every one but the S90V Manix I understand I need a thumb on one side, finger on the other. This is why I will be a Spyderco customer for life. 3 ounces. It absolutely beats the lock bar to death. In a Compression Lock, the This video is my tribute to the greatest innovator in the knife universe for the past 2 decades. I don't believe in safe queens, only in pre-need replacements. Reactions: Edgeoflife, DavidZ, Bob Denman and 8 others. You could potentially flip the fire button around 180 degrees but it won't fire or lock correctly so pay attention to how the button is rotated and slip the spring through the little hole in the botton. This leaves the cavity for the blade larger as there are no obstructions at the spine of the handle, so a blade can be wider. , the owner assumes the My average time from hammer grip to fully closed with a compression lock: 0,96 seconds Details: Knives: Stretch 1(HAP40 version) for the backlock (blade NOT free dropping at all) PM2 for the compression lock (blade IS free dropping) Procedure: - Knife in an hammergrip in the right hand, ready to cut (so finger NOT on the lockbar / lock tab) I think perhaps the compression lock has begun to exert more pressure on the blade when closed causing it to be pushed to the side when closed, but it's hard to confirm. I use both the Spyderco g-clip and the small Tek-Lok for belt carry of small knives (Krein TK-11 with a Tek-Lok and Strider ED with a g-clip). I think people want that classic design and thin blade format with other lock types, so they just say Chaparral with x,y,z lock to communicate it more succinctly. (Specs by Spyderco: S30V PM2: 3. Had three with unacceptable lock rock movement with slight pressure on the blade. The impact of the blade against the face of the lock bar flattens it and changes the dimensional relationships of the locking faces of the lug. And yes, On a side note I'd love to see Spyderco make a few new knives with the bolt lock :) Currently enjoying Spyderco's in - S30V, VG10, Super Blue, Cruwear x4, CTS XHP, S110V x2, M4 x3, S35VN, CTS The advantage of a Compression lock and a Walker Linerlock is that the lock comes in from the side. When the blade It is supported by a high-strength Compression Lock® mechanism and stainless steel it includes a deep-pocket wire clip reversible for left or right-side tip-up carry. But on the Sage, the lock appears fully compressed when the blade is closed, pressing it it doesn't move. To close it, I use a two-hand procedure where I grip the Spyder Hole with the index finger and thumb, and the blade with the middle and third fingers, of one hand, while depressing the lock release with the index finger (supported on the All other features of this knife are faithful to the original, including a full-flat-ground CTS® BD1N stainless steel blade, a streamlined Compression Lock mechanism, nonslip Bi-Directional Texturing™ on the handle, a reversible deep-pocket wire clip that provides a choice of left or right-side tip-up carry. love it but I've noticed that the lock operates slightly diff than the comp locks on my pm2 and para3. Search; Manix 2 LW Locking system. I think you could build it with a button on the side. The compression lock was developed by Sal. There are reports of this Especially with the heavier knives you run the risk of metal to metal impact damage as the blade locks open with great force. Thumb in the hole while disengaging the lock, then thumb it closed. 44 posts 1; 2; 3; Next; Doeswhateveraspidercan Member Posts: 2618 Joined: Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:31 am. Repeat until you have the desired lock strength. If spyderco can sell the GB2 in M4 as a refined design, I simply can’t accept a lum tanto in m390 that fell off a quality design cliff half way through at $70 more. On the bright side, look at Sal's comment above. The Shaman is an example of using a Compression lock because I wanted a wide blade for strength and geometry. I find it more awkward feeling having to push the lock bar to the side with the thumb in that grip than straight down like on a back lock. Add to cart. I prefer linerlocks where the release is more difficult to get at. So can say undoubtedly with complete confidence, that this works 100% of the time. I've watched multiple YouTube tutorials but just can't get the hang of it. It's also fascinating to see all the ways spyderco is quietly innovating such a timeless lock design, through the "sandwich" FRN construction in Seki and Golden linerless folders, the floating lock bar pin in Golden, and the internal stop pin and clever lockbar machining on the Chaparral. The tab has also been moved nearer towards the tang to allow for leverage. Why Spyderco hasn’t done more with the CBBL is beyond me, it is perfection. Yes, you are wrong in your analysis. It can be closed the same way. Fortunately I have never had a comp lock open in my pocket, probably because I carry tip up with the blade against the pocket rear seam. For (10-20%) that it could slip off the side of the lock face, and you don't want it so late that it will wear (or bend) to the point it will be fully engaged and develop play. It's not that complicated. That said, the compression lock is still my favorite lock. A lock-back is designed to lock open with maximan security not to absorb heavy metal to metal impact. But, in my mind, it is very possible that somebody could have sabataged a knife by regrinding the bevel on the lock and/or blade and made a video to show failure to tarnish the integrity of Spyderco's quality. On the contrary, pressure from the side seems to be common among lock types that don’t have a bias to stay closed. It definitely doesn't have a detent ball. Additional information. 72" (221mm) Blade Length. A lug on one end of the arm engages a notch in the blade's tang to lock the blade open. The spring effect of the compression lock only engages the lock; all the force is trying to compress a straight piece of steel between two fixed points, as was pointed out earlier by smcfalls13. For left-handed users, the Military 2 uses Spyderco's signature Compression Lock mechanism. Every knife in the series features the same basic design parameters—a full-flat-ground, leaf-shaped CPM® S30V® blade, an ergonomic handle design with textured forefinger choil and thumb ramp, and a reversible It was Ok initially but soon developed side to side blade play that I cannot tune out of it. However, if a knife started out that way, it means the liner lock is already ground down too much. Inspired by a TuffKnives YouTube video in which Geoff Blauvelt (aka “tuffthumbz”) modified a Spyderco Para Military® 2, Smock decided to try his hand at customizing a factory-made knife. IIRC Sal said it was invented by someone at G Sakai and they may have IP rights to it. Meaning put the non-lock side on the table, assemble and tighten the scale screws, tigthen the Pivot screw. It doesn't bothered previous Spyderco’s Sage Series™ is a unique family of knives that showcases the innovative lock mechanisms that have helped define modern folding knife technology. You can't see it when the scales are on the knife. I value my fingers and my hands so I will not trust any of members with a faulty lock in any fashion. Locking Mechanisms BACK LOCK A locking system positioned on the back of the handle that uses a rocker arm that pivots in the center. 00 with free shipping - Spyderco Military 2 Compression Lock Folding Knife 4 inch S30V Satin Plain Blade, Black G10 Handles at KnifeCenter FALL FOLDER CLEARANCE EVENT | 1,200+ Spyderco’s Sage Series™ is a unique family of knives that showcases the innovative lock mechanisms that have helped define modern folding knife technology. Your lock engagement on the top Para looks I’ve never had a compression lock (about 10 knives at this point) with side to side play. I know some folks whine about it but it’s safer if you ask me. Its blade is supported by a sturdy back lock mechanism that locks it securely open when in use yet allows easy ambidextrous lock release. The Native 5 is my favorite Spyderco, followed closely by the Lil Native and Manix. however, when bladehq strength-tested a variety of Spyderco locking options, the compression lock was strong but the blade broke before the back lock broke. The all new Spyderco Para Military 2 Agent scale features improved ergonomics, weight-reducing pocketing, linerless on the non-compression lock side, and amazing aesthetics. , the owner assumes the responsibility to research and comply with all applicable Backlocks aren't the smoothest lock, but if you tighten the pivot too much there is extra friction on the tang that is very noticeable. I have an orange Dodo that I absolutely love, and I just noticed today that the ball bearing had a little bit of play. As the lock wears, it should move from left to right, ending with it touching the opposite scale. Some more blatantly than others, Reeve Intergral Lock by Spyderco, Monolock by Benchmade and Framelock by almost the rest of the world. It's a liner lock, and I like that liner lock a lot. A Bi-Directional Texturing™ pattern on the black handle ensures a secure, non-slip grip and a A stainless steel interface in the lock yields a long service life it includes an hourglass pocket clip configured for right-side, tip-up carry. No side to side play at all, even with the lock disengaged. But an improved back lock would make it a lot better, I think. 22 WAIVER OF LIABILITY, AND INDEMNITY AGREEMENT By purchasing or receiving any item produced by Spyderco, Inc. 75 with free shipping - Spyderco Military 2 Compression Lock Folding Knife 4 inch CruWear Satin Plain Blade, Brown Canvas Micarta Handles at KnifeCenter EXCLUSIVE DEMKO FOLDERS w/ K110 STEEL - ONLY $94. At that point, the knife "becomes" a notched-joint non-locker. The Manix series fits my hand better than any other large Spyderco. The back lock feels so nice once broken in a little bit & the ergos made possible by the back lock design are When the blade is opened, the Bolt Action Lock mechanism automatically engages to lock it securely in the open position. This makes it much easier to understand. I usually don't pinch the knife at the top and push the lock with my finger. Another brand that tried had multiple failures on the same knife type. Maybe that's lazy, and it clearly annoys some die hard Chap fans. I cannot recall having a linerlock, even a cheap one fail on me. Great idea, I'll probably try that before trying to build back the metal on the other side. When it's open, this is not a problem. The show side of the blade boasts the classic Spyderco logo, as well as the steel composition and “Spyderco” name, and keeps the text very small for a touch of class. The Spyderco Military is easily one of my top, or most, favorite knives. Re: What models would you like to see with the side button compression lock like the Smock. Ippon wrote:Compression lock is my most used, but as far as which I prefer the compression lock and the mid lock are on equal grounds. Buy SPYDERCO SP36GP2 for $210. I commend Benchmade, McHenry and Willams on the accomplishment. 6. SKU: 716104014101 Category: Spyderco. NCJohn62 #3 - The blade side of the lock interface looks like it was a manufacturing mistake. However I want a lock that is going to be reliable. Those two things combined will definitely mean a harder to open Spyderco’s Sage Series is a family of knives that showcases the innovative lock mechanisms that have helped define modern folding knife technology. I would even say they’re both 100% safe when used properly. There are no reviews yet. Since they screw into the kydex sheath holes I can put two molle locks on each sheath, allowing me to have a molle lock clipped to my belt on each side of a belt loop. The easily indexed oversized firing button includes a sliding safety to prevent unintentional activation and extends through the opposite-side liner to maximize lock strength. Hard pass. With the spring bar in place in the fire button, work on lining up the fire button and lanyard tube into their holes on the back side liner. 50 with free shipping steel liners that formed the foundation of a sturdy LinerLock mechanism and anchored a pocket clip configured for right-side, tip-down carry only. The Autonomy 2’s blade is full-flat ground from LC200N—a nitrogen-enriched alloy that is The inner side of the scales is also machined to accept the nested, corrosion-resistant LC200N liners that provide impressive structural strength and form the foundation of the knife's Compression Lock® mechanism. The fifth-generation Native 5 version of this design raises the bar even further, combining an ultra-lightweight fiberglass-reinforced-nylon (FRN) handle, a low-profile black finish, and an aggressive SpyderEdge cutting edge with the advanced engineering of the Native 5 Interesting. 54" (217mm) Blade Spyderco’s black-bladed Native Lightweight has long been the go-to cutting tool for savvy tactical knife users. I use both and like them both for different reasons. Doesn't get me anything? Popular opinion is that the compression lock is a stronger lock;. 1 Opening Hole, originally designed and patented by Sal Glesser and Spyderco Knives. Nested within one of the handle halves, this mechanism uses a spring piston to engage a plate attached to the blade tang. There have been a number of threads on this topic though. The lock side of the blade has “Taichung Taiwan” at the heel of the blade, as well as the Slysz logo next to the Spydie hole. Sliding the ambidextrous lock release buttons to the rear Discover premium Spyderco knives and cutting tools at Spyderco UK. The Sage 3 uses the same Blackie Collins designed bolt action lock as that Gerber/Meyerco. On a side note repeated inertia openings are super hard on a knife and accelerates wear. I used to do this myself until I wore a good knife out. So I would say if lock strength is the issue go with the back lock. Well if we're looking solely at friction alone and not opening force or blade detent action or anything else, I would think that the CBBL or the standard ball bearing lock are along the absolute lowest friction, because the contact point at the blade is so small, and compared to a liner or compression lock where those detent balls are fixed in place and are literally scraping Designed by Spyderco’s Eric Glesser, this lock proudly showcases a white ceramic ball bearing, which is the inspiration for the knife’s name. WAIVER OF LIABILITY, AND INDEMNITY Spyderco SwayBack Frame Lock Knife C249TIP quantity. I prefer a back lock to the comp lock and on top of that I already have two PM2 plus two Para 3 folders. Pocket-Friendly: A polished Stainless Steel clip provides convenient carry and is reversible for left or right-side tip-up access. One of the most stylish additions to Spyderco’s growing Salt Series of knives, the Skeletonized stainless steel liners nested within the scales anchor the knife’s high-strength Compression Lock® mechanism, while a reversible titanium hourglass clip offers convenient left or right-side tip-up carry. Imagine if that had been a Spyderco, especially like the Yojimbo 2; the stuff of nightmares. 5 is too small for me, but you get the idea. This pin helps hold the CBBL metal backing piece in place, along with one screw further back on the handle. 40 posts 1; 2; Next; RamZar Member Posts: 4433 Joined: Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:44 am Location: SoCal, USA. Post by Enactive » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:37 pm. Introduced for the Spyderco’s Sage Series™ is a unique family of knives that showcases the innovative lock mechanisms that have helped define modern folding knife technology. To make this workhorse cutting tool even better suited t I'm fairly certain that Spyderco could increase resistance to accidental opening by adding another ball detent to the opposite side of the blade of compression lock models. The inside of the scale is heavily pocketed to reduce weight by 0. Szabo Folder wrote:“ To cope with the extreme leverages associated with its longer blade, the Szabo folder features Spyderco’s high-stength Compression Lock® accompanied by an internal “self-close” mechanism. I finally succumb to the powers of the Para 2. Explore our extensive collection designed for enthusiasts and professionals alike. I've had a few "cheap" ones (liner lock knives) that I could overcome, but thankfully have 2. Often copied but never duplicated. Overall Length. Right above the lock release there is not a screw, but a hidden pin that rests between the liners that. Designed from the ground up to be an affordably priced, performance-oriented folding knife, the Spyderco Efficient has earned a devoted following among savvy knife users who appreciate a solid value. This will quietly open it without the lock snapping into place. When blade is opened into position, the liner lock rest at this position: When pressure is exerted onto back of blade, the liner lock slide down a little bit to this position: However at this stage the lock stops sliding and any more pressure would just cause the liner to bend. I'll take this one apart and bend out the compression lock just a little to achieve the positive engagement. If somehow you can attach a piece of metal to the lock release from the spine to the opposite side, pressure in the same direction to release the compression lock would be the same pressure as a left hand liner lock. This spring will buckle with pressure over the 2. RELEASE, ASSUMPTION OF RISK, WAIVER OF LIABILITY, AND INDEMNITY AGREEMENT By purchasing or receiving any item produced by Spyderco, Inc. Spyderco’s Sage Series™ is a unique family of knives that showcases the innovative lock mechanisms that have helped define modern folding knife technology. Description; A polished stainless steel clip provides convenient carry and is reversible for left or right-side tip-up access. Search Advanced search. all provide some closing bias. If I loosen my knives too much then some side to side play will develop but I’ve never had side to side play with the pivot fully tightened. dlttrading. I'm sure it isn't the easiest lock to make, and there's always those who can't exhail without comparing it to the Axis lock and complaining about not being able to unlock it with just their thumb. That works regardless of handedness, although the front scale of my A. On the Spyderco side, the Ikuchi falls into this same design category, but can get away with it because of its unique flipper opener. A reversible deep-pocket wire clip offers a choice of discreet, left or right-side tip-up carry and keeps this remarkable cutting tool poised for action at all times. It's a good lock, but I do not prefer to see it on Spyderco's as it messes with Spyderco's design language. I'm trying to adjust my expectations :) I already had to return one where the blade touched the scale on clip side. What models would you like to see with the side button compression lock like the Smock. The only difference is that the Gerber and Meyerco versions only had only one elongated release button, making their locks handed, while the Sage 3 has a round release buttons on both sides, making it equally easy to use with Evil D wrote:I think the back lock version may be more to do with the original than people just not liking the CBBL. What you want to do is gain access to the screw that holds the pin that the lock bar pivots on. While the blade is closed, press the lock release so there is a little space between the lock bar an the blade blow some air into the space. Over the years, however, CLIPIT designs Based on a knife designed by custom knifemaker Kevin Smock, the Smock is a utilitarian folding knife that incorporates a clever variation of Spyderco's patented Compression Lock® mechanism. And his locking mechanism that is on par with the McHenry & I am selecting my first folding knife and so far I narrowed it down to two models - Spyderco's Native 5 LW and Sage 5 LW. compression lock® A lock mechanism that uses a leaf-like spring from a split liner in the handle to wedge laterally between a ramp on the blade tang and the stop pin (or anvil pin). A reversible deep-pocket clip mounts to the butt end of the handle to provide left or right-side tip-up carry. Regards, FK This spring lock has a bend in it or at the end or the lock cut, in the case of frame lock. Jim I have been thinking a lot about the CBBL vs compression lock and wondering why Spyderco uses the CBBL so little when it's so awesome. I have to disagree with Dr. I won't buy those knifes any more but I LOVE their multi-tools. I actually like as few parts as possible so it looks good as is from a design standpoint but I wonder if it would be more ergonomic with a button to deactivate the lock. Barr One Eyed Jack is not on the same side as the front slab of your Techno, but it falls apart with compression lock knives, where the front side is the lock side. Although often mistaken as a “LinerLock on the back of the handle,” the Compression Lock is actually radically different. On those I can depress the kock when the blade is closed, freeing it to swing it open. WAIVER OF LIABILITY, AND INDEMNITY AGREEMENT By purchasing or receiving any item produced by Spyderco, Inc. When closed, mine is a bit off center and also can be wiggled side to side several mms! In fact mine has this side play all the way until opened. I always figured the perfect position would be when the left (outside) side of the lock bar was even with the side of the tang. Only one has slight lock stick,,,, it was purchased used and is the first run of Knife Works CTS 204P with dark green G10. I am happy to report I had no issues with this. I've especially liked Spyderco's Ball Bearing lock>> the one on the Dodo models has always been one of my favorites. I started thinking maybe it was because of the mechanical properties and one being easier to manufacture than the other, but in thinking about that, I couldn't actually guess which would be easier to manufacture. Then put the blade and top washer on, then the lock side on with an open blade, screw in pivot Spyderco’s Trademark Round Hole™ provides leverage for swift, positive one-handed opening, while an hourglass clip on the handle offers convenient right-side, tip-up carry to keep this remarkable knife poised and instantly accessible. Lock Mechanism: Compression Lock Carry Option: Left/Right Tip-Up. Hold the handle like I do normally, push the lock bar over with my thumb, let the finger choil area of the blade drop onto my finger, then close it the rest of the way with my thumb. I think this has resulted in an overall greater lock tension and detent. ) mechanism, which locks the blade securely open during use, yet can be easily released with one hand. I have been able to inertia open a few knives hard enough the lock bar locks and unlocks itself, or the lock bar bounces in and out of the lock recess. Grind. I do it similar to how I close a Spyderco back lock. It is both strong and reliable. Opposed to replacing it. I can 'flick' open and shut almost all my Spyderco knives. I agree with others who would prefer to see the compression lock Military as an option along side the current liner lock. Water Bug wrote:Call me old fashion and safety conscious To open the Para-Military, I thumb it open with the Spyder Hole. I've never worried that a comp, back, or frame/liner lock might be accidentally released. Forum rules. There are reports of this Any lock which operates side to side in one direction only, or is side mounted on one side only, is handed. This ensures that the sheath doesn't move around on me at all which I very much like. It also feels to me like the lock bar itself has much more tension on it than the newer locks do. I’d forgotten about the Caly 3 rocker in my glove box. This may be the clicking sound you hear. Seems like Manix 2 sales are pretty strong though. 7 out of 5 stars 775 13 offers from $13989 $ 139 89 The pivot is screwed, two screws on each side thread into a piece that rests between the blade, like in my Siren breakdown pictures. Compression Lock. You can use the shark lock as a ramp for your thumb. Rock solid. With all due respect, lock rock, side to side play, lock slippage, can and will eventually result in failing. It's a Para 3 lightweight but I'm having lots of issues with flicking the knife open and closed. " If you "break" the lock in any Spyderco folder with either lock you should have been using a fixed blade. Presently have several K390 Stretch 2, Endura and Delica,,,, all are solid with no a trace of lock rock. I took it apart and made a few measurements. , the owner assumes the responsibility to research and comply with all applicable federal, state, local, and international laws related to the possession, ownership, carry, shipment, transport, and use of any The S90V and 'second run' s30v versions have a wider/taller cutout for the compression lock (a wider leaf spring when you look at it side on). I got my first Spyderco Knife this past Christmas. I don't know if I never noticed this, or if it developed. Top. Additionally the lock bar is rounded at the top in a way that the Para 3 isn't, and the lockbar cutout is slightly smaller, the sum of which means that I feel significant pressure on the tip of my finger when disengaging the Sage 5 lock. I do a ton of them, The button comp lock seems more like a gimmick to me than a useful innovation although I do agree it would probably be easier to use when wearing thick gloves. I did notice when I use a side grip and cut things on a cutting board there is significantly increased blade play. He began cautiously with a Spyderco Tenacious® and was thrilled with the results he Ikuchi Carbon Fiber Flipper Knife . Maybe if the Spring liner is soft enough I can recover that millimeter, but it's doubtful. Spyderco Manix 2 EDC Folding Utility Knife - High-Performance 3. Based on a knife designed by renowned custom knifemaker Kevin Smock, the Smock is a utilitarian folding knife that incorporates a clever variation of Spyderco's Compression Lock® mechanism. Finicky - Very strong lock (though all Spyderco locks are more than strong enough, I can remember even Eric Glesser saying, that in long bladed folders he likes to have a backlock for its strength). Gold Member. Feb 6, 2021 This is somewhat common for m2. Maybe a production version/change. I have a cutaway version of the Gunting showing the lock actually going into position. L. In the end I feel the Liner Lock and Back Lock are outdated and just need to move over and let the new guys run the show! Don’t hate me, just getting things off my chest. Manix 2 LW Locking system. Just to see if it effected anything, I did a few light spine whacks, and whatever With all due respect, lock rock, side to side play, lock slippage, can and will eventually result in failing. Designed by Paul Alexander, a Ph. Spyderco General Discussion. Trying to use the compression lock with my left hand is not great, and I feel can be actually dangerous because using your thumb on the tab means that’s your only purchase on that side of the scale is a smooth tab of metal less than a 1/4” wide. I've been thinking that the Ball Bearing lock would be nice for some of the bigger, full sized folders in the line up. 5 mm blade just pushed the compression lock design too far. My two cents Your knife mileage may vary. D. Joined Mar 28, 2010 Messages 13,413. Centering problems on frame-locks usually show up as the lock pushes the blade to the other side. Good evening everyone, I could use some educated advice. 25 inch arc. Lubed with Nano-Oil and used for a while,,,, the lock stick is gradually going away. Snubnose, at least with respect to the small Tek-Lok. I think the very small area available to provide lockup in a narrow 2. R. Knife has zero play, no lock wiggle, no side to side, never been taken apart, its always cleaned out so no lint or oil in mechanism. The only Buy SPYDERCO SP36GPBN15V2 for $241. I think it’s my favorite Spyderco designminus the lock CLIPIT® is a term created by Spyderco® to describe our extraordinary folding knives. The lock has traveled all the way across to the other side, it started at about 85% when I got it out of the box, however even with it all the way over it locks up just as tightly as any other knife I have, I even put some pressure on it and did a couple spine whack tests to make sure it was still strong and made it through just fine, so even if it does wear all the way through The Parata’s blade is linked to a sleek, linerless G-10 handle with Spyderco’s patented Stop Lock™ -- a high-strength, extremely user friendly lock mechanism that releases by lifting a toggle on the spine of the handle. I don't know if tis a cbbl characteristic or not. As far as closing the comp lock, if my hands are wet/tired etc. 3 Thumb Disk. Since you have already voided the warranty, take the CF scales off the side of the knife. Every knife in the series features the same basic design My Spyderco experience started in 2003, Over the years I had gained positive experience with both the Compression Lock (owning a PM 2) and the wire clip the Lil' Native clip is by far the sturdiest. Spyderco Para Military 2 Scales – Agent Series – Clip Side Liner Delete – Cerakote. but I need that lock (not into a free swinging blade). Here's a photo of the interior of the knife: The second piece of steel at the far lefthand side of the image is the lock itself and not the lock spring. They need tightened to the point it takes twice the effort to open them to eliminate side to side play. Reviews. The difference is thickness is minimal (I've compared them side-by-side). What I do: 1) assemble the knife lock up. I wonder if someone else has any suggestions. Unlike most versions of this lock, which are released by applying lateral pressure directly to the knife's stainless steel liner, the Smock has a button built into the obverse (front) I like liner locks personally. When combined with Spyderco?s Trademark Round Hole in the blade and a reversible wire clip that supports left or right-side tip-up carry, Would you like to see the "uncaged" ball bearing lock on other Spyderco knives? You may select 1 option. My left-side training knife is an Endura with this "syndrome. I adore this knife’s design. Lock Type. The Parata’s blade is linked to a sleek, linerless G-10 handle with Spyderco’s patented Stop Lock™ -- a high-strength, extremely user friendly lock mechanism that releases by lifting a I have a nice collection of Para 3 (no LW) and PM2 knives. Lock formats that use this type of system -- liner lock, frame lock, compression lock -- will be relatively more likely to open up in the pocket. Most my Spydercos I can eliminate side to side play before it gets to that point, but not my LC Pacifics. Yeah! I would really like to see it on other knives! 34. Here is a photo I just made of my 20. Based on a knife designed by acclaimed custom knifemaker Kevin Smock, the Smock is a utilitarian folding knife that incorporates a clever variation of Spyderco's patented Compression Lock® mechanism. Wouldn't mind it if Spyderco threw it on a few more models like the Native 5 personally. I also Most people find the comp lock is more fun to play with, so it sells better. Closing the knife can be done similar to a lock back where the choil drops on your index finger. The sleek chamfers provide excellent All other features are consistent with the standard version of the Para 3, including a full-flat grind for exceptional edge geometry and low-friction cutting performance, a fully accessible Trademark Round Hole™ for swift, ambidextrous, one-handed opening, a high-strength Compression Lock® mechanism, and a four-position hourglass clip that supports left or right-side tip-up or tip-down Backlocks aren't the smoothest lock, but if you tighten the pivot too much there is extra friction on the tang that is very noticeable. However, the simple truth is that we knife enthusiasts will never agree on what constitutes an ideal balance of detent strength, bias to closing, and ease of deployment. Discuss Spyderco's products and history. I. The phantom lock was developed by Sal. The tip of the stiletto-style blade had been poking the side of my manhood through my pocket. Post by RamZar » Fri Dec 30, 2022 11:09 pm. 2 Thumb Stud. The base joint of my index finger partially depresses the lock release in this grip. It does sound like they’ve improved quite a bit. It's basically set up similarly to a Smock for a left (show) side button, however instead of a liner with the integral lock bar, it's using a lock bar insert like on the Para 3 LW. The Compression lock, though very simple in concept seems difficult to understand. 5. 44 posts Previous; 1; 2; 3; Next; Wartstein Member Posts: 12864 Joined: Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:06 pm Location: Salzburg, Austria, Europe. I have noticed the issue with my liner lock knives and notice how far the lock bar is behind the tang when locked. The backlock is the champ here, but axis lock, ball bearing lock, arc lock, etc. 95! The reverse-side scale forms the foundation of the knife’s stout Reeve Integral Lock (R. That never really occurred to me until now. There has been some discussion on being able to accidentally release the lock. Side to side blade play. 8. If the blade doesn't drop then I guide the blade down with my thumb. 4 Spring Driven (As in Automatic, "Switch Blade Knife", both side-opening and out Also I wish Spyderco would consider a larger scale Dodo model with a longer/wider blade and a more bulky handle along with a similar Ball Bearing lock like the original Dodo has. From there on, any more wear will result in less than perfect lock ups. Unlike most versions of this lock, which are released by applying lateral pressure directly to the knife's stainless steel liner, the Smock has a button built into the obverse (front) side scale. The ultra-slim Spyderco Ikuchi is a radically different approach to pocketknife form and function. Interesting thread. I also actually like a hint of lock On a side note about the video: I don't know anything about the guy who made the video. On the comp lock, closing force tries to move the blade away from the stop pin on one side, but the lockbar transfers that force to a different side of the pin, keeping the load on it. What did intrigue me about the compression lock when I read it was that it was chosen for the Junior because there wasn't room for Stealth mode: sometimes I pinch the lock with the index finger and maintain pressure on the lock while using the thumb hole to fully open the blade, then release the lock. I would assume that if a compression lock came open in the pocket, it would be worse if it was tip-down than if it was tip-up. Spyderco’s Sage Series is a family of knives that showcases the innovative lock mechanisms that have helped define modern folding knife technology. 60 posts 1; 2; 3; Next; Reagenn Member Posts: 20 Joined: Mon May 16, 2022 12:21 am Location: Oklahoma, Earth. In fact, you may just be making the lock worse, because you can't pinch the lock with your index finger to disengage, since there's no liner on the other side for your thumb to push on. Every knife in the series features the same basic design parameters—a full-flat-ground, leaf-shaped CPM® S30V® blade, an ergonomic handle design with textured forefinger choil and thumb ramp, and a reversible I used to sell them side by side with Spyderco in college, and at that point you couldn’t have paid me to carry a recon. in Mechanical Engineering and a lifelong knife enthusiast, the Ikuchi (pronounced ee-koo-chee and named after a mythical Japanese sea monster) has an elegantly curved handle crafted with Designed by Argentinean custom knifemaker Javier Vogt, the Tropen is an elegant synthesis of Spyderco’s Compression Lock® mechanism and three different one-hand opening options. You build it, break it, and beef up the part that broke. Its broad, dramatically curved blade is full-flat ground from CPM&re So I was looking at my brass-lined CoPilot (CO9S produced in 1987) a little closer, and noticed that the back spacer and the lock spring seem to be from the same piece of steel. I have not had any Spyderco knive fail or even "act up". Designing a knife that folds is really not as easy as it might seem. I’m not left handed, but I will say the compression lock is so great used the way it was designed to be used. I have heard the term early lockup but never knew what it was. The 20. This unique knife was produced for and available exclusively through DLT Trading (www. With the scales removed adjust the tension on the screw so the lock bar moves easily just using your thumb The same reason they are making a Military 2, people are tired of the Liner Lock. A manufacturer can make any lock to whatever strength they want. in particular the side-by-side photo is great. They are very similar with the main difference being lockback vs compression lock mechanisms. Iconic Design: Both Titanium scales are beautifully crowned for comfort and the reverse-side scale forms the foundation of a sturdy Reeve Integral Lock (R. The only Spyderco knives I have had with lock rock were early Native models from Golden. I found that the compression lock doesn't swing inward enough as if I push on it more, the vertical play goes away. I find the compression lock easier to close than the CBBL, especially when my hands are slippery. Green-anodized titanium standoffs join the Recently I bought genuine Shaman, regular model in S30V, from very good source, knowing about that this piece has some side to side blade play, even when screws are tightened to maximum. I own a Sage mainly for personal defense - I like everything of the Sage but I don't know how to trust the liner lock; being not educated I wonder if it could fail on me and have the blade closing on my fingers - on the other side I see some brands more expensive and considered "tactical" knives using the Spyderco’s Sage Series™ is a unique family of knives that showcases the innovative lock mechanisms that have helped define modern folding knife technology. . 15 years ago I'm pretty sure they were still on the ultra lock version with a different handle shape. the Sage 3 includes a reversible deep-pocket wire clip that supports left or right-side tip up carry and makes the knife’s operation truly ambidextrous in every way. The CBBL was The Sage™ 5 highlights Spyderco’s own Compression Lock mechanism. Every knife in the series features the same basic design parameters—a full-flat-ground, leaf-shaped CPM® S30V® blade, an ergonomic handle design with textured forefinger choil and thumb ramp, and a reversible In general, I’m not worried or fearful of using either lock. Every knife in the series features the same basic design parameters—a full-flat-ground, leaf-shaped CPM® S30V® blade, an ergonomic handle design with textured forefinger choil and thumb ramp, and a reversible I've done more Spyderco mods than I can count, I could field strip a PM2 blindfolded. The liner lock bar traveled over too far and got wedged between the tang and liner on the opposite side of the handle. " The lock moving to the other side isn't that worrying. Our original models were configured for only one carry position—either right or left-side, tip-down carry. The ball bearing just wiggles side to side when the knife is closed. Take a look at my liner lock and tell me if it's a problem. Now I do. The Axis lock is a very good lock. 37" CPM S30V Stainless Steel Blade, Ergonomic Black G-10 Handle, Ball Bearing Lock, PlainEdge - C101GP2 4. Spyderco also chose to use the compression lock on the Spyderco junior for safety reasons, it was a knife designed for young people who are learning how to use a knife. Painful to fidget with for short periods of time. T. That's why I grind my teeth a bit when people say things like "Spyderco should just make a Military Model with a caged Ball Bearing Lock. The Sage 4 emulates The blade and handle of the Sage 4 are joined by the front lock mechanism developed by McBurnette and his peers and popularized by Mar. I've owned various Spyderco models for the last 15 years or so. com) and their sales channels. A linerlock is the same as a Michael Walker Linerlock. Spyderco figured out a really clever way to implement that closing bias on a compression lock using an action that fits on the side but the pressure still comes from in line with the blade. Vivi’s point about the CBBL being safer than detent-based locks when closed is a valuable observation. S90V model is the only one that works like a BBL, using Buy SPYDERCO SP36MPCW2 for $228. ) with a Stainless Steel interface. Developed I really like the side locking action on some of the knives I have, so I've kinda settled on the Manix 2 LW but wasn't sure how dependable and smooth the Spyderco side Just thought I would point out the ones that are Spyderco locks. I'm pretty familiar with compression locks, so I'm surprised I just now realized my knives did this. I can do it without the flicking but I figured that's part of the perks of having a Spyderco. I was able to to get tight lock up previously by adjusting the spring over further but she gets pretty hard to use with so much spring pressure. BALL BEARING LOCK A patented compressive lock that wedges a ball Continue reading "Locking Mechanisms" I have side-to-side blade play on my Delica. Re: Power Lock. Location: Wet side of Washington. 9 oz / 111 grams; K390 SS Stretch 2: When stowing the knife, I find the spring tension on the Sage 5 lock bar to be significantly higher. Judging by the cost difference between the military (MAP $255, liner lock) and the military 2 (MAP $210 comp lock), I'm guessing comp locks are cheaper to manufacture as well, which may play into their prevalence. I would say that the Tri Ad lock will probably wear in slower as it As a lefty I like linerlocks for the fact that I still get a show side with them whereas Framelocks not so much. aowf avbpe atp ttdjiqg sogn uxnz wjrss wrybpod cvniq jhg